few pics of the new dsm.

Kolat · **few pics of the new dsm.**

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beansbaxter · 12-18-2006, 05:55 PM

cool pics

ted_garlock · 12-18-2006, 09:36 PM

wow, all of the beauty truly is under the hood...

Kolat · 12-18-2006, 09:57 PM

I'll get some pics of the exhaust when I get a new tranny in it.....the exhaust is SEX!

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UrfavNME · 12-19-2006, 12:32 PM

T, how much did you pay for that thing?

Kolat · 07:42 PM

.... more than I wanted to pay for a dsm, but still worth it since it has some mods already to play with.

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UrfavNME · 12-19-2006, 05:25 PM

Mod list? Looks like maybe a boost/air fuel guage combo, maybe boost/Pyrometor?

Kolat · 12-19-2006, 07:16 PM

2g Pistons/1g big rods
Cometic HG
Revised 3g Lifters
Shepherd Racing GVR4 Tranny
Ported RRE Big 16G turbo with 38mm wastegate & Ported 2g Exhaust Mani
ACT 2600 clutch
Extended Slave Rod
Steel Braided Clutch line
Taboo Speed Shop Clutch Fork
Fidanza Flywheel
Dave Brode 2" upper intercooler pipe
B&M fuel pressure gauge
Supra Fuel Pump
SpoolinUP AFPR
3" Turbo Back with Magnaflow Performance muffler & 3" Test Pipe
EVO 8 shift knob
Grant Steering Wheel
Ground Control coilovers & Koni Yellows in rear
Eibach Sportlines & KYB GR2's in front
Nuespeed front & rear strut tower bars
VooDoo III MBC
TMO Stage 3 Chip
Clear Corner lights
Autometer Boost & Air/Fuel Gauges
1g MMCd Logger & Cable

SRPS13 · 12-20-2006, 07:07 AM

she's looking rugged in the forest green.

UrfavNME · 12-20-2006, 12:22 PM

Cool cars, can be fast cars but god DAMN do they break easy and way too often

ted_garlock · 12-20-2006, 01:03 PM

DSM's? I think you've got them confused. I've seen several 400+hp daily driven DSM's that don't break. The ones that break are the bolt-on only penny pinchers with nitrous.

SRPS13 · 12-20-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ted_garlock

DSM's? I think you've got them confused. I've seen several 400+hp daily driven DSM's that don't break. The ones that break are the bolt-on only penny pinchers with nitrous.

All dsms break. There isn't a 400+hp one that will last. The drivetrain can be upgraded but axles, 1/2 shafts are gonna snap if you "drive" your dsm daily.

Kolat · 12-20-2006, 03:21 PM

sheps 7 second dsm is street driven and does'nt break....but shep is the man. power breaks things, that's why honduhs are reliable.

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ted_garlock · 12-21-2006, 09:53 AM

The only thing I've personally seen go out on DSM's are:
Clutch Master Cylinder - $80 fix
Crank Walk (on 2g block only, and most hardcore DSMtuners do a swap)
Turbo (from too much boost, not cooling/warming correctly)
Head Gaskets (again too much boost)

On the whole, everything else seems to just "wear out" over time. All axles go bad, so do all 1/2shafts. It's just a question of when and how bad. Granted, I'll be the first to admit I am not the most knowledgable person on this (or any other forum), and could be wrong about the overall integrity. However, it's pretty well known that there was a huge build quality (and price) gap between the NA eclipse's and the turbo models. The NA's are, for lack of a better term, crap, while the turbo models are built to a higher standard.

ecotecjosh · 12-21-2006, 10:15 AM

I know from personal experience, all DSM's break eventually :P whether stock or not :P

Cpt.Coroles · 12-30-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UrfavNME

Cool cars, can be fast cars but god DAMN do they break easy and way too often

I hear this from everbody. As long as you maintain the car, nothing bad will happen to it. I have seen plenty of well taken care of dsm's and nothing catasrophic ever happened to them. But, with a little neglet, yes they do break all of the time.

Cpt.Coroles · 12-30-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolat

sheps 7 second dsm is street driven and does'nt break....but shep is the man. power breaks things, that's why honduhs are reliable.

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Ha, just saw this too, funny if you look at it that way! And you messed up with the cars make, it is Honduh...capital H!

Revhard · 12-31-2006, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRPS13

All dsms break. There isn't a 400+hp one that will last. The drivetrain can be upgraded but axles, 1/2 shafts are gonna snap if you "drive" your dsm daily.

, why i sold mine. Hope its faster than it looks! Wash the damn thing!!! :p

UrfavNME · 12-31-2006, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Coroles

I hear this from everbody. As long as you maintain the car, nothing bad will happen to it. I have seen plenty of well taken care of dsm's and nothing catasrophic ever happened to them. But, with a little neglet, yes they do break all of the time.

I am not talking about stock ass DSMs. People that get them to mod them almost NEVER do it right, they try to "penny pinch it" and just have shitty experiences with them. Intec racing in Kent built my buddy Andys 4G63, .20 over, carillo this, wiseco that blah blah blah, everything perfect, double checked, triple checked, He takes it out, it doesnt last 2 days of easy driving. Brand new motor tosses the timing belt, kills the valves, etc etc. I hear about busted ass DSMs all the time. PLUS they NEVER NEVER have reliable Transmissions. I have owned RWD Nissans, and never has Axle/Tranny/Diff troubles that werent easily remedied, DSMs snap axles all the time, and thier tranny shells are weak as hell.

Now, that said, for the BUCK, You can run some sicko times out of a well built DSM, and do it a shit load cheaper than Hondas, Chevys, Fords, Nissans, whatever else you want to put in that arena of vehicles. I'll say the 4G63 is a damn tite motor, I personally would love a Galant VR4, however ugly they are!

rowlex · 12-31-2006, 06:37 AM

so how many cars...can you double their stock horsepower and not eventually break something?? Gimme a break your talking about 400HP, doubling the stock HP.

On a side note, I have a good friend of mine that runs 11.1's all day long, and commutes from everett to renton daily in it. Hasn't snapped a half shaft yet, and his trans is holding up just fine.

Obviously intec racing sucks if his "built car" lasted 2 days. That's not the cars fault that's those who put it together's fault.

so in your RWD nissans...were they doubling stock HP?

Kolat · 12-31-2006, 07:56 AM

does swapping a non crappy motor into the nissan count as doubling the stock hp? heh

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rowlex · 12-31-2006, 01:27 PM

lol, only if they doubled the HP on the non-crappy engine......wait they made one of those?????

Kolat · 12-31-2006, 04:48 PM

ka24 vs rb25dett = tripple hp.

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UrfavNME · 12-31-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rowlex

lol, only if they doubled the HP on the non-crappy engine......wait they made one of those?????

:D HEH HEH

Non crappy engine? Did I double? well in one car is a swap, the Z is over double stock build....Thats 300 Stock too...Whats your ride BOYO?

rowlex · 01-06-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrfavNME

:D HEH HEH

Non crappy engine? Did I double? well in one car is a swap, the Z is over double stock build....Thats 300 Stock too...Whats your ride BOYO?

mine is posted in the pictures section :) where's yours?

SRPS13 · 01-09-2007, 08:27 AM

rb25deT single T is a piece of iron block junk. 2jzgte makes the rb25 &rb26 it's bitch

Kolat · 01-10-2007, 07:23 PM

iron blocks are sooooo much nicer for making real power. No needing to re-sleeve blocks or O-ring them till crazy power per cyl.

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SRPS13 · 01-11-2007, 08:52 AM

I agree that you can make more power with an iron block. But how hard is re-sleeving a block? HOnestly. It's soo damn easy. Iron weighs more. RB series engines have been around for quite a while but by far inferior to the 2jzgte. I'm biased because I used to think my nissan needed a rb25 but then have found numerous people blowing them up under well under 500whp. And take an sr with no sleeves and make over 500whp on a stock block? what's the point of an iron block. Kolat you being a dsm guy I can see how you live and die by the iron block 4g63. That's the baddest 4 cylinder known to man. Over 1k awhp at AMS. Simply Bad ass!

UrfavNME · 01-13-2007, 01:38 PM

I actually am in the process of building an SR for my 2poopy. Looking for big numbers at the lowest $ amount possible. I KNOW you have suggestions. 300ZX MAF, Q45 TB, Bigger Turbo/injectors/front mount etc, but what else?

Kolat · 01-13-2007, 02:02 PM

cams, hows the stock SR head flow? fuel pump? fuel pressure regulator? some way of tuning fuel, apexi SAFC? Plug wires, boost controller :-)

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SRPS13 · 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UrfavNME

I actually am in the process of building an SR for my 2poopy. Looking for big numbers at the lowest $ amount possible. I KNOW you have suggestions. 300ZX MAF, Q45 TB, Bigger Turbo/injectors/front mount etc, but what else?

z32 MAF. Q45 is crap for tuning. Never consider q45 ever again.
SSAC fmic is cheap and gets the job done
740cc side feed injectors
walbro 255 fuel pump & z32 fuel filter
hks cams 264/272 cuz they're cheap
boost controller
turbo depends on the budget i'd suggest 2871r .63 a/r for stock bottom mount.
obvious mods such as 3" turboback exhaust and i'd get a 3" intake
Divorced outlet pipe if you have the money.
adjustable fpr
www.rs-enthapy.com tune. They kick jwt's ass in tuning.
The tune should be spot on and no need for safcII but if you want to dyno tune you can do final adjustments w/ a safcII or send your ecu and dyno graph back to scott at enthalpy and he'll add and subtract where it's needed.

That should be a good start that has 400whp potential. Good luck. You know how to get ahold of me.

UrfavNME · 01-17-2007, 04:54 PM

And now d-bag wants to sell it.

Brian · 02-16-2009, 11:59 AM

Just have to revive this as this is my car now!! LOL

Mikercw · 02-18-2009, 05:11 PM

hahahaha

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